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Someone help me please! A/C questions
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Catalina
2018-07-21 16:35:14 UTC
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Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.

First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.

It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
%
2018-07-21 16:40:01 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
move
Frank
2018-07-21 17:42:00 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years. I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
Catalina
2018-07-21 19:13:40 UTC
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Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years. I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
Unquestionably Confused
2018-07-21 20:40:27 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
Are you certain it's getting power? I know you reset the breaker at the
panel. I have a breaker at the 200-Amp service panel and also a
disconnect breaker on the side of the house adjacent to the compressor.
Both have to be passing current for the system to work. Some of the
outside boxed (depending on your electrician, etc) will have a breaker,
others may have a cartridge fuse.

Last but not least, let's not forget that circuit breakers can crap out
after time. Gotta make sure you have current on both phases of the 240v
at the compressor.

Only time I had a problem in recent memory was when some damn chipmunks
got into the compressor housing and decided that the insulation on the
control wiring was delicious and the small gauge copper wire was just
dandy to gnaw through.
Bill
2018-07-21 21:00:11 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years. I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less to
swap them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it. You have to
learn how to discharge a possibly charged capacitor before you do
it. Good luck!
Leper
2018-07-21 21:33:30 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year
old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working.  Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries.  Then I
reset
the breaker.  None of this worked.  First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds.  Cleaned all that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters.  Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years.  I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less to swap
them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it.  You have to learn how to
discharge a possibly charged capacitor before you do it.  Good luck!
Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor
without an account? They are not available just anywhere other then
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the case and
it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are made. Service
call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is usually a dual for
fan also...Labor about $20...Plus whatever tax you area requires.
--
Machiavelli wrote:It is necessary for the state to deal in lies and half
truths,
because people are made up of lies and half truths. Even Princes.' And
certainly, by definition all Ambassadors and politicians
Bill
2018-07-21 22:17:05 UTC
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Post by Leper
Post by Bill
Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and
my 6year old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due.
Then, I
checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working.  Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh
batteries.  Then I
reset
the breaker.  None of this worked.  First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds.
Cleaned all that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters.  Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the
compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years.  I have a
service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service
technician
gets here before I pass out.
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less
to swap them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it.  You have
to learn how to discharge a possibly charged capacitor before
you do it.  Good luck!
Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor
without an account?
I didn't have any trouble locating the ones I needed in
Indianapolis, and I didn't even have to go to Granger (who I
suppose has them all at twice the price). Just check the Yellow
Pages.

They are not available just anywhere other then
Post by Leper
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the
case and it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are
made. Service call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is
usually a dual for fan also...
I had "half" of a dual go out, and replaced the half I needed for
cheap. The replacements don't have to be "Lennox" branded, they
just need to be the right size (or a little bigger). Like I
suggested, the OP could swap out the capacitors and be out less
than half the price of a service call. It doesn't take a
"genius". I bought a voltage tester that tests capacitors too
for about $60.

There are some on Usenet who would discourage DIY's. I am just
the opposite. In my area, it cost $250 to have a capacitor
replaced. Not all contractors are as reasonable as the ones in
this forum.


Labor about $20...Plus whatever tax
Post by Leper
you area requires.
Catalina
2018-07-21 22:40:37 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year
old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I
reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all
that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years. I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less to swap
them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it. You have to learn how to
discharge a possibly charged capacitor before you do it. Good luck!
Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor without
an account?
I didn't have any trouble locating the ones I needed in Indianapolis, and
I didn't even have to go to Granger (who I suppose has them all at twice
the price). Just check the Yellow Pages.
They are not available just anywhere other then
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the case and
it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are made. Service
call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is usually a dual for fan
also...
I had "half" of a dual go out, and replaced the half I needed for cheap.
The replacements don't have to be "Lennox" branded, they just need to be
the right size (or a little bigger). Like I suggested, the OP could swap
out the capacitors and be out less than half the price of a service call.
It doesn't take a "genius". I bought a voltage tester that tests
capacitors too for about $60.
There are some on Usenet who would discourage DIY's. I am just the
opposite. In my area, it cost $250 to have a capacitor replaced. Not all
contractors are as reasonable as the ones in this forum.
Labor about $20...Plus whatever tax
Thanks, Bill. I've called the company I bought it from.
Ralph Mowery
2018-07-21 22:38:20 UTC
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Post by Leper
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less to swap
them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it.  You have to learn how to
discharge a possibly charged capacitor before you do it.  Good luck!
Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor
without an account? They are not available just anywhere other then
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the case and
it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are made. Service
call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is usually a dual for
fan also...Labor about $20...Plus whatever tax you area requires.
You can buy capacitors on ebay from US places so shipping is only a few
days for $ 20 or less for most.

Several years ago my AC quit. Called the man and he replaced the
capacitor in about 10 minuits or so. He worked for a larger company .
When I called they said the service call would be about $ 90 . Fair
enough. Then that $ 20 capacitor cost me close to $ 300 for him to
install it. That company had about 5 level of service and each one had
a price. Mine was the least expensive. I would not have minded him
charging $ 50 for the capacitor. In fact he asked me what I though it
would cost and I told him probably about $ 25 to him, but $ 50 to me.

He was very friendly and knew a lot and he told me to get a capacitor
and a relay as those 2 items usually go out. I looked on ebay and
ordered one of each for less than $ 20 each. A few years later the AC
quit again. I replaced the capacitor and all was well. Ordered another
off ebay for a spare.

I would think most any shop that sells and rebuilds motors would sell
you a capacitor for less than $ 50. My well pump quit and it was the
start points . Took them to a motor shop and the name tag data of the
motor. The man came back with a new one and sold it to me without any
problem.

Mos likely if a CC Dickson suply place is near you , you can get one
there without an account. I bought a few bearings for my AC air handler
unit from them without an account.
Genius
2018-07-21 22:48:57 UTC
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Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor without an account? They are not available just anywhere other then
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the case and it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are made. Service call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is usually a dual for fan also...Labor about $20...Plus
whatever tax you area requires.
I keep caps and a contactor on hand for my central air.  Bought them from Amazon, no HVAC license required.

I've always wondered why brick-n-mortar stores cry about Amazon taking away their business yet the fucktards won't sell you a repair part for a furnace or air conditioner.
Ralph Mowery
2018-07-21 23:36:55 UTC
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In article <vLO4D.180807$***@fx43.iad>, ***@amazon-
customer.com says...
Post by Genius
I keep caps and a contactor on hand for my central air.  Bought them from Amazon, no HVAC license required.
I've always wondered why brick-n-mortar stores cry about Amazon taking away their business yet the fucktards won't sell you a repair part for a furnace or air conditioner.
Seems that if you can wait several days most anything can be bought on
line.

Years ago it was not that way. I remember going with a friend to
another town to pickup some boat motor parts for his company. A man was
there wanting to buy a part that was about $ 10 for his boat motor.
That company would not sell it to him as they were a 'wholesaler'. We
bought part and sold it to the man for our cost. Made him happy with us.

Not really a good way for a company to make friends and keep business.

There was a TV parts dealer in town many years ago. They would not sell
to the public. They would sell to the local ham radio operators many
parts, but not items that are special to the TV sets.
Checkmate
2018-07-22 01:14:58 UTC
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Post by Leper
Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year
old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working.  Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries.  Then I
reset
the breaker.  None of this worked.  First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds.  Cleaned all that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters.  Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years.  I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less to swap
them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it.  You have to learn how to
discharge a possibly charged capacitor before you do it.  Good luck!
Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor
without an account? They are not available just anywhere other then
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the case and
it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are made. Service
call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is usually a dual for
fan also...Labor about $20...Plus whatever tax you area requires.
Graingers
McMaster-Carr
Me
HVAC supply house

This is not a job recommended for an amateur, and it helps to be able to
identify and test the capacitors in the system before rushing out to buy
new ones.
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amdx
2018-07-30 00:59:03 UTC
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Post by Leper
Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my
6year old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working.  Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries.  Then I
reset
the breaker.  None of this worked.  First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds.  Cleaned all that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters.  Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years.  I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
My guess is it's a capacitor. Would only cost you $30 or less to swap
them out; $250 or so if a pro/tech does it.  You have to learn how to
discharge a possibly charged capacitor before you do it.  Good luck!
Well Genius... Where does a citizen purchase the needed capacitor
without an account? They are not available just anywhere other then
Wholesale Dealers. Most Service companies purchase them by the case and
it takes a number of cases to cover all values that are made. Service
call is about $120...Capacitor is about $45 and is usually a dual for
fan also...Labor about $20...Plus whatever tax you area requires.
It may or may not be the capacitor, however,
You might want to get off your high horse there pardner.
There's a new thing out there called the internet, with a dozen
companies ready to sell you the capacitor you need for your air
conditioner. Even Ebay and Amazon have the capacitor you may need.
Getting the right part number is the proper start.
Here's a random search on Ebay for Compressor/Fan capacitor.
Post by Leper
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=compressor%2Ffan+capacitor&_sacat=0
Just the fan section of the dual capacitor on my compressor crapped
out, I subbed in a cap from a squirrel cage fan I had in my shed until
the proper part I order off the internet arrived.
Leper
2018-07-30 04:46:42 UTC
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Post by amdx
It may or may not be the capacitor, however,
 You might want to get off your high horse there pardner.
There's a new thing out there called the internet, with a dozen
companies ready to sell you the capacitor you need for your air
conditioner. Even Ebay and Amazon have the capacitor you may need.
 Getting the right part number is the proper start.
Here's a random search on Ebay for Compressor/Fan capacitor.
Eat shit amdx. Nobody said that it was the capacitor and the owner
wanted immediate cooling. As per your many many fucked up past postings,
You seem destined to shoot your face off in a Pro group. Take your
babble back to the Homeowners. Maybe you can get some of them hurt or
worse with bad advice. By the way, my business covers parts of 3 states
for HVAC.
--
Machiavelli wrote:It is necessary for the state to deal in lies and half
truths,
because people are made up of lies and half truths. Even Princes.' And
certainly, by definition all Ambassadors and politicians
Bill
2018-07-30 18:16:33 UTC
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Post by Leper
Post by amdx
It may or may not be the capacitor, however,
  You might want to get off your high horse there pardner.
There's a new thing out there called the internet, with a dozen
companies ready to sell you the capacitor you need for your air
conditioner. Even Ebay and Amazon have the capacitor you may need.
  Getting the right part number is the proper start.
Here's a random search on Ebay for Compressor/Fan capacitor.
Eat shit amdx.
Back at ya Leper, you are the one in the wrong.


Nobody said that it was the capacitor and the
Post by Leper
owner wanted immediate cooling. As per your many many fucked up
past postings, You seem destined to shoot your face off in a Pro
group. Take your babble back to the Homeowners. Maybe you can get
some of them hurt or worse with bad advice. By the way, my
business covers parts of 3 states for HVAC.
tRudy Crayola
2018-07-21 21:26:23 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years. I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
About due for a Run Capacitor....Did the fan motor run?
--
Rudy's Nut & Fruit farm- Sacramento
Frank
2018-07-22 00:07:23 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Frank
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
I had a signal wire from the thermostat break near the compressor
apparently due to vibrations over the years. I have a service contract
and tech found it when opening unit.
I'm guessing it's in the wiring, I just hope the service technician
gets here before I pass out.
We were in that situation. I even ran out and bought a portable ac. I
learned not to wait to turn it on until absolutely necessary so I turn
it on first show of hot days now.
micky
2018-07-21 17:43:35 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 21 Jul 2018 12:35:14 -0400, "Catalina"
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
Blink is not a carefully defined word.

You say what you did but don't say what the problem is.

Was the fan in the house running?
Post by Catalina
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
A hint at the problem. How do you know it doesn't work? Did y ou
turn off the power at the switch you can see from the compressor and
forget to turn it back on? When you first turn the power back on,
with your hand on the compressor (the actual compressor, the roundish
thing bigger than a softball and smaller than a soccer ball. Not the
box you took apart) does the compressor vibrate at all? How long does
it continue to hum/vibrate? (I don't mean shake visibly. Just the kind
of internal vibration you can feel with your fingers.

Does the fan inside the comparessor box run? Does it stop later? How
long does it run?
Post by Catalina
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
Catalina
2018-07-21 19:10:59 UTC
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Post by micky
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 21 Jul 2018 12:35:14 -0400, "Catalina"
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
Blink is not a carefully defined word.
You say what you did but don't say what the problem is.
Was the fan in the house running?
The fan is running just fine.
Post by micky
Post by Catalina
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
A hint at the problem. How do you know it doesn't work? Did y ou
turn off the power at the switch you can see from the compressor and
forget to turn it back on?
I turned the power off at the box in the garage, then turned it back
on after a few seconds.
Post by micky
When you first turn the power back on,
with your hand on the compressor (the actual compressor, the roundish
thing bigger than a softball and smaller than a soccer ball. Not the
box you took apart) does the compressor vibrate at all? How long does
it continue to hum/vibrate? (I don't mean shake visibly. Just the kind
of internal vibration you can feel with your fingers.
The compressor doesn't turn on at all, and I didn't feel for a vibration
Post by micky
Does the fan inside the comparessor box run? Does it stop later? How
long does it run?
Does not run at all.
micky
2018-07-21 22:20:18 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 21 Jul 2018 15:10:59 -0400, "Catalina"
Post by Catalina
Post by micky
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 21 Jul 2018 12:35:14 -0400, "Catalina"
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
Blink is not a carefully defined word.
You say what you did but don't say what the problem is.
Was the fan in the house running?
The fan is running just fine.
Post by micky
Post by Catalina
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
A hint at the problem. How do you know it doesn't work? Did y ou
turn off the power at the switch you can see from the compressor and
forget to turn it back on?
I turned the power off at the box in the garage, then turned it back
on after a few seconds.
If the compressor is overheating, a few seconds might not be enough time
for the internal switch to reset. Others here know more about that.

Is this the main breaker box? If so, there is usually** another box
that is in sight of the person working on the compressor, for his
protection, so that he can turn off the power and no one can turn it on
without his seeing them. **I think this has been required for more
than 40 years in the US, including when upgrading old AC.
Post by Catalina
Post by micky
When you first turn the power back on,
with your hand on the compressor (the actual compressor, the roundish
thing bigger than a softball and smaller than a soccer ball. Not the
box you took apart) does the compressor vibrate at all? How long does
it continue to hum/vibrate? (I don't mean shake visibly. Just the kind
of internal vibration you can feel with your fingers.
The compressor doesn't turn on at all, and I didn't feel for a vibration
So you're judging either by the noise or by the fan's lack of motion?

But didn't it take a minute to get from the box in the garage to the
compressor?
Post by Catalina
Post by micky
Does the fan inside the comparessor box run? Does it stop later? How
long does it run?
Does not run at all.
So it sounds like the breaker is tripping. Otherwise one of the two
should run, even if the other is broken.

You probably have two different circuit breakers, one for the part
inside the house and one for the 220volt part outside the house. Are
they both On?

Does the 220 volt part trip soon after it's turned on. TWo ways to
check this. 1) If the 220 breaker was tripped, open the switch outside
the house, go inside and turn on the 110 and the 220, go outside and
while watching and listening and even touching, turn the sw

2) Also you can test by turning off the 110 part (single breaker iirc)
turning on the 220, and then


Do you have cartridge fuses instead of a 220 volt breaker? They blow
too but don't always look like it.
Tekkie®
2018-07-21 19:38:56 UTC
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Catalina posted for all of us...
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
If you are technically inclined there is a series of videos on U tube by a
HVAC guy that are excellent. I can't recall his channel at this time.
Preview a video and decide if it's in your competency or not.
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Vincent
2018-07-21 21:24:28 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Catalina
2018-07-21 22:48:38 UTC
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Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Vincent
2018-07-23 05:08:02 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Please post your Area and what it costs in that area.
Checkmate
2018-07-23 05:31:48 UTC
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Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Please post your Area and what it costs in that area.
And let me know if it was a component in the control circuit (including
possibly the capacitor)...
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Catalina
2018-07-29 02:08:10 UTC
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Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
says...
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year
old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all
that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Please post your Area and what it costs in that area.
And let me know if it was a component in the control circuit (including
possibly the capacitor)...
It was a reset button on the fan near the compressor. When he first opened
it, I asked where it was, and he looked and said it didn't have one. Then
he went inside to the thermostat, the back to the blower a couple of times.
Everything checked out. Then he looked down into the fan and said, "you're
not going to believe this", and I took a couple of step back, thinking he
was going to pull a boa out. He pulled the fan out, and hit the reset
button. He said it was the most difficult and dangerous place to put one.
He reminded me to pull this switch to kill the power, before attempting it.
He said it would have started the fan and could cut off your fingers or
worse. He was here less than 15 minutes, and that including sending be an
invoice to my email.
Checkmate
2018-07-29 06:12:29 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
says...
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year
old
a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all
that
up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Please post your Area and what it costs in that area.
And let me know if it was a component in the control circuit (including
possibly the capacitor)...
It was a reset button on the fan near the compressor. When he first opened
it, I asked where it was, and he looked and said it didn't have one. Then
he went inside to the thermostat, the back to the blower a couple of times.
Everything checked out. Then he looked down into the fan and said, "you're
not going to believe this", and I took a couple of step back, thinking he
was going to pull a boa out. He pulled the fan out, and hit the reset
button. He said it was the most difficult and dangerous place to put one.
He reminded me to pull this switch to kill the power, before attempting it.
He said it would have started the fan and could cut off your fingers or
worse. He was here less than 15 minutes, and that including sending be an
invoice to my email.
I figured it was likely in the controls. On a really hot day when
everyone is using their air conditioners, your line voltage can drop
below normal limits. That's likely what tripped the reset button, which
is basically a thermal overload device. Hopefully, he charged you for
just a normal service call, and if it happens again, you'll know what to
do. Pretty stupid for someone to install it where they did, though.
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Catalina
2018-08-03 04:39:25 UTC
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Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
says...
Post by Catalina
It was a reset button on the fan near the compressor. When he first opened
it, I asked where it was, and he looked and said it didn't have one.
Then
he went inside to the thermostat, the back to the blower a couple of times.
Everything checked out. Then he looked down into the fan and said, "you're
not going to believe this", and I took a couple of step back, thinking he
was going to pull a boa out. He pulled the fan out, and hit the reset
button. He said it was the most difficult and dangerous place to put one.
He reminded me to pull this switch to kill the power, before attempting it.
He said it would have started the fan and could cut off your fingers or
worse. He was here less than 15 minutes, and that including sending be an
invoice to my email.
I figured it was likely in the controls. On a really hot day when
everyone is using their air conditioners, your line voltage can drop
below normal limits. That's likely what tripped the reset button, which
is basically a thermal overload device.
Strange you would mention that. The original guy never called back for
3 days, and by then I re-hired the guy that promised to come out on day
two. Long story short, while I was waiting for him to show up, I thought
I would go to my neighbors house, 2 doors down. I stopped when I saw
an A/C vehicle in the driveway, and putting the whole system at the curb.

Then, that all happened on Monday and Tuesday, and on Thurs., my
electric went out for no apparent reason. Never had a power outage
like this. I went outside, and all my neighbors across the street had
power, then looked at my side of the street and it was completely
dark, and stayed that way for hours. . .
Post by Checkmate
Hopefully, he charged you for
just a normal service call, and if it happens again, you'll know what to
do. Pretty stupid for someone to install it where they did, though.
My guy treated me great, and I will call him again.

Although the company I first called offered my 2 free a/c visits and
a plumbing visit for their mess up.
Checkmate
2018-08-03 04:51:21 UTC
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Checkmate! In article <***@news.alt.net>, ***@Beach.Sun
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Post by Catalina
Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
says...
Post by Catalina
It was a reset button on the fan near the compressor. When he first opened
it, I asked where it was, and he looked and said it didn't have one.
Then
he went inside to the thermostat, the back to the blower a couple of times.
Everything checked out. Then he looked down into the fan and said, "you're
not going to believe this", and I took a couple of step back, thinking he
was going to pull a boa out. He pulled the fan out, and hit the reset
button. He said it was the most difficult and dangerous place to put one.
He reminded me to pull this switch to kill the power, before attempting it.
He said it would have started the fan and could cut off your fingers or
worse. He was here less than 15 minutes, and that including sending be an
invoice to my email.
I figured it was likely in the controls. On a really hot day when
everyone is using their air conditioners, your line voltage can drop
below normal limits. That's likely what tripped the reset button, which
is basically a thermal overload device.
Strange you would mention that. The original guy never called back for
3 days, and by then I re-hired the guy that promised to come out on day
two. Long story short, while I was waiting for him to show up, I thought
I would go to my neighbors house, 2 doors down. I stopped when I saw
an A/C vehicle in the driveway, and putting the whole system at the curb.
Then, that all happened on Monday and Tuesday, and on Thurs., my
electric went out for no apparent reason. Never had a power outage
like this. I went outside, and all my neighbors across the street had
power, then looked at my side of the street and it was completely
dark, and stayed that way for hours. . .
Post by Checkmate
Hopefully, he charged you for
just a normal service call, and if it happens again, you'll know what to
do. Pretty stupid for someone to install it where they did, though.
My guy treated me great, and I will call him again.
Although the company I first called offered my 2 free a/c visits and
a plumbing visit for their mess up.
They'd just pad their bill and get it out of you one way or another.
Nothing is "free" in this world.
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<***@Letuci.org>" determined that the following was of great
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Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old
a/c decided to go on the blink. First, I changed the filters, they were
a little past due. Then, I checked the thermostat, and found that the
batteries were corroded, but still was working. Cleaned up that mess
and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset the breaker. None of this
worked. First sign of daylight, I took the compressor apart and found
filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up, but still the compressor
doesn't work. It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Please post your Area and what it costs in that area.
my LG a/c was screwed together with one of the inlet temp sensor wires run through with a screw.

had an intermittent E2 error for the last 2 summers that was usually correctable by forcing a system test (hold in power while resetting the breaker on the AC plug). the last time i tried this "fix" it continued with the E2 error and not operating...

SHORT STORY SHORTER: it's working fine now.

at least they sent this one to ME and not some family who would have spent a month's rent trying to fix it at the shop while grandma dies of heat stroke.

WHAT LUCK!
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Catalina
2018-07-29 02:01:01 UTC
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Post by Vincent
Post by Catalina
Post by Vincent
It is a Lennox. You cannot pay more, but you can get better. Try
sprinkling it with Holy water while you call the Lennox Service dept.
Done! And thank you everyone, that gave advice!
Please post your Area and what it costs in that area.
Dust Bowl, USA and the average is $99 - $129.
Wade Garrett
2018-07-22 13:58:18 UTC
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Post by Catalina
Yesterday, the actual temperature got to 110 degrees F. and my 6year old a/c
decided to go on the blink.
First, I changed the filters, they were a little past due. Then, I checked
the thermostat, and found that the batteries were corroded, but still was
working. Cleaned up that mess and installed fresh batteries. Then I reset
the breaker. None of this worked. First sign of daylight, I took the
compressor apart and found filthy with Willow seeds. Cleaned all that up,
but still the compressor doesn't work.
It's a Lennox, if that matters. Any suggestions?
After you get it fixed and running, don't continue to neglect basic
maintenance- you mentioned past due filter and corroded thermostat
battery terminals in your current setup.

Also, when was the last time you changed the oil in your car ;-)
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