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T.E.C.H. METHOD MAINTENANCE INSPECTIONS by Gary R. Lloyd CMS
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t***@gmail.com
2016-11-15 04:18:44 UTC
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is there any way to still find the books by gary r lloyd ???
i have been looking for more then 2 years.

please someone reach out to me and help me out.
John
2016-11-25 05:03:02 UTC
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Post by t***@gmail.com
is there any way to still find the books by gary r lloyd ???
i have been looking for more then 2 years.
please someone reach out to me and help me out.
I have one of his books from 1988. I don't know if he is still around or not.
t***@gmail.com
2017-07-01 06:07:34 UTC
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Any way you can send me a copy of the book/s. I'm more then willing to pay.
John
2017-07-25 22:43:54 UTC
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I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.

John
Zinger
2017-07-26 04:41:32 UTC
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Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
That's a joke. 1988 is totally obsolete in today's modern equipment.
Everything is now controlled by electronics and High efficiency
Mechanicals. Standard procedure is by Super Heat and Sub cooling
factors. Maybe someones outhouse is in need of ass wipe.
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John
2017-07-26 17:01:20 UTC
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Post by Zinger
Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
That's a joke. 1988 is totally obsolete in today's modern equipment.
Everything is now controlled by electronics and High efficiency
Mechanicals. Standard procedure is by Super Heat and Sub cooling
factors. Maybe someones outhouse is in need of ass wipe.
It has super heat and subcooling and ac principles haven't changed.
Also high efficiency etc. is there too. It's mainly a course on
principles and physics of ac and they haven't changed.
Brto
2017-08-11 23:44:02 UTC
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replying to Zinger, Brto wrote:
You haven't even read the books, have you?

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Zinger
2017-08-12 06:10:10 UTC
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Post by Brto
You haven't even read the books, have you?
First off, I will point out to you that this Newsgroup was not created
to be a spammers advertising Products system.

The Newsgroup was primarily designed for the interchange of Ideas etc
for the Professionals.

The Secondary design was to help out those of the public that had no
where else to seek aid.

You are none of the above!!!

Our Sister Newsgroup is designed for those that wish to exchange and to
design HVAC Products and to delve into the Physics of such.

1988 is ancient in today's modern HVAC systems! You are selling crap.
I am well educated in Thermodynamics and have Controlled a HVAC Company
for a number of Decades. There have been vast changes since 1988. The
Physics of High efficiency was just barely getting started in 1988, It
has traveled eons since them.The same for the Cooling industry. Air
conditioners and refrigeration systems are vastly different with
different types of Gases and the method of charging them has changed
greatly. I highly recommend that all Candidates for this very well
paying industry sign on to a minimum 2 year Tech School or better yet,
Get a University degree in Thermodynamic Engineering. Most Unions are
tied to ACCA or ASHRAE with NATE training. Here are the requirements for
most states.

2 Years Votech school
2 years apprenticeship
4 years Journeyman
1 Year Master
Then Contractor.

The first 4 years can be done in 2 if you work in the industry while in
school. You cannot work unless a master is running the job. The master
cannot contract work. The contractor cannot work the job but can
contract it. Basically all contractors are also masters.
All upgrades are based on practical factors, classes, and written tests.

There is no way that a 1988 course can handle all of that.

http://www.acca.org/home

https://www.ashrae.org/

http://www.natex.org/site/1/Home
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Bill
2017-08-12 06:24:13 UTC
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Post by Zinger
Post by Brto
You haven't even read the books, have you?
First off, I will point out to you that this Newsgroup was not created
to be a spammers advertising Products system.
The Newsgroup was primarily designed for the interchange of Ideas etc
for the Professionals.
The Secondary design was to help out those of the public that had no
where else to seek aid.
Bunch of experts here (ha), but no one posts shit! Lighten up! : )
Post by Zinger
You are none of the above!!!
Our Sister Newsgroup is designed for those that wish to exchange and
to design HVAC Products and to delve into the Physics of such.
1988 is ancient in today's modern HVAC systems! You are selling crap.
I am well educated in Thermodynamics and have Controlled a HVAC
Company for a number of Decades. There have been vast changes since
1988. The Physics of High efficiency was just barely getting started
in 1988, It has traveled eons since them.The same for the Cooling
industry. Air conditioners and refrigeration systems are vastly
different with different types of Gases and the method of charging
them has changed greatly. I highly recommend that all Candidates for
this very well paying industry sign on to a minimum 2 year Tech School
or better yet, Get a University degree in Thermodynamic Engineering.
Most Unions are tied to ACCA or ASHRAE with NATE training. Here are
the requirements for most states.
2 Years Votech school
2 years apprenticeship
4 years Journeyman
1 Year Master
Then Contractor.
The first 4 years can be done in 2 if you work in the industry while
in school. You cannot work unless a master is running the job. The
master cannot contract work. The contractor cannot work the job but
can contract it. Basically all contractors are also masters.
All upgrades are based on practical factors, classes, and written tests.
There is no way that a 1988 course can handle all of that.
http://www.acca.org/home
https://www.ashrae.org/
http://www.natex.org/site/1/Home
Zinger
2017-08-12 06:41:40 UTC
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Post by Bill
Post by Zinger
Post by Brto
You haven't even read the books, have you?
First off, I will point out to you that this Newsgroup was not created
to be a spammers advertising Products system.
The Newsgroup was primarily designed for the interchange of Ideas etc
for the Professionals.
The Secondary design was to help out those of the public that had no
where else to seek aid.
Bunch of experts here (ha), but no one posts shit! Lighten up! : )
Actually everyone still does...Back channel. Why would one that makes a
living in this business give it away for free anyway? As for
spamming..It isn't acceptable anywhere on usenet.
Post by Bill
Post by Zinger
You are none of the above!!!
Our Sister Newsgroup is designed for those that wish to exchange and
to design HVAC Products and to delve into the Physics of such.
1988 is ancient in today's modern HVAC systems! You are selling crap.
I am well educated in Thermodynamics and have Controlled a HVAC
Company for a number of Decades. There have been vast changes since
1988. The Physics of High efficiency was just barely getting started
in 1988, It has traveled eons since them.The same for the Cooling
industry. Air conditioners and refrigeration systems are vastly
different with different types of Gases and the method of charging
them has changed greatly. I highly recommend that all Candidates for
this very well paying industry sign on to a minimum 2 year Tech School
or better yet, Get a University degree in Thermodynamic Engineering.
Most Unions are tied to ACCA or ASHRAE with NATE training. Here are
the requirements for most states.
2 Years Votech school
2 years apprenticeship
4 years Journeyman
1 Year Master
Then Contractor.
The first 4 years can be done in 2 if you work in the industry while
in school. You cannot work unless a master is running the job. The
master cannot contract work. The contractor cannot work the job but
can contract it. Basically all contractors are also masters.
All upgrades are based on practical factors, classes, and written tests.
There is no way that a 1988 course can handle all of that.
http://www.acca.org/home
https://www.ashrae.org/
http://www.natex.org/site/1/Home
--
Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to
the security of a free State, the right of the people
to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
Simon
2018-10-12 12:14:02 UTC
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replying to Zinger, Simon wrote:
The knowledge touted today as the cutting edge of checking a system is based
on the plagiarization of Mr Lloyds work. The physics is the same as 100+ years
ago. Maybe in another 45 years when copyright expires they can just print Mr
Lloyds work instead of stealing parts and putting it out as their individual
work or a corporations. Too bad these geniuses haven't actually grasped what
he has written. If you were well educated about thermodynamics in our trade
then you would have read posts from or about Mr Lloyd and would have never
posted what you did. Here's a link to a thread you might benefit from.
http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/showthread.php?19701-Refrigeration-101
I am well educated in Thermodynamics and have Controlled a HVAC Company for
a number of Decades. There have been vast changes since 1988.

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Zinger
2018-10-12 18:25:55 UTC
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Post by Simon
The knowledge touted today as the cutting edge of checking a system is based
on the plagiarization of Mr Lloyds work. The physics is the same as 100+ years
ago. Maybe in another 45 years when copyright expires they can just print Mr
Lloyds work instead of stealing parts and putting it out as their individual
work or a corporations. Too bad these geniuses haven't actually grasped what
he has written.   If you were well educated about thermodynamics in our
trade
then you would have read posts from or about Mr Lloyd and would have never
posted what you did. Here's a link to a thread you might benefit from.
http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/showthread.php?19701-Refrigeration-101
Never heard of the Guy. He might be OK, but a fellow like you posting
that one person is the overall expert is pure lunacy. You probably were
not even born in 1988. Soooo.. From this station which has educated many
licensees and engineers...


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Post by Simon
I am well educated in Thermodynamics and have Controlled a HVAC Company for
a number of Decades. There have been vast changes since 1988.
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Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to
the security of a free State, the right of the people
to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
sam
2021-02-06 00:15:02 UTC
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Zinger, the book was updated in 2004. The principals haven't changed and if you were familiar with the book you would know that all the subcooling and superheat numbers bandied about today was taken from "T.E.C.H. Method". Nothing you posted would have revealed what The TECH Method book contains. Lloyd's book is in a class of its own
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Bill
2017-08-12 06:38:36 UTC
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Post by Zinger
Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
That's a joke. 1988 is totally obsolete in today's modern equipment.
The books received some interesting comments on the HVAC-TALK forum.
Leper
2017-08-12 07:03:24 UTC
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Post by Bill
Post by Zinger
Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
That's a joke. 1988 is totally obsolete in today's modern equipment.
The books received some interesting comments on the HVAC-TALK forum.
Now that is fucking funny... ;-)

How many months and how many Newsgroups has he spammed and not one sale!
Bill...you have better things to do.
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d***@yahoo.com
2017-08-08 19:56:56 UTC
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Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
John, I will buy them from you. I had a set that belonged to the company I worked for. Great teaching tool. PM me and let's set it up.

Dennis
Brto
2017-08-11 03:44:03 UTC
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replying to dhite1, Brto wrote:
Hello. I have Gary Lloyd's T.E.C.H. METHOD MAINTENANCE INSPECTIONS Book Sets
for Sale On eBay
anyone interested please let me know.
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John
2017-08-17 06:57:13 UTC
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Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
The book has sold. Thanks guys.
Bill
2017-08-17 09:53:16 UTC
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Post by John
Post by John
I have a copy of TECH Method Lesson Series, 1988, ac/r Trouble Shooting by
Gary R. LLoyd CMS I would sell for $200 if anyone is interested.
John
The book has sold. Thanks guys.
Thank you for your post. It motivated me to order a related book on
diagnostics (haven't got it yet)! : )
sam
2021-02-06 00:15:02 UTC
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It's being sold through eBay.
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Brto
2017-08-11 03:44:02 UTC
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replying to tomagrin, Brto wrote:

Hello. I have Gary Lloyd's T.E.C.H. METHOD MAINTENANCE INSPECTIONS Book Sets
for Sale On eBay
anyone interested please let me know.

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Brto
2017-08-11 23:44:04 UTC
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replying to Brto, Brto wrote:
Correction: I have the full troubleshooting sets, brand new, for sale on ebay.
I am the author's son in law and have been authorized to sell them.

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PaxPerPoten
2017-08-12 06:12:54 UTC
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Post by Brto
Correction: I have the full troubleshooting sets, brand new, for sale on ebay.
I am the author's son in law and have been authorized to sell them.
This is a con job!
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Brto
2017-08-11 23:44:05 UTC
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replying to Brto, Brto wrote:
You may want to check this out. A good place to get started.

http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/showthread.php?19701-Refrigeration-101

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PaxPerPoten
2017-08-12 06:13:13 UTC
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Post by Brto
You may want to check this out. A good place to get started.
http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/showthread.php?19701-Refrigeration-101
This is a con job!
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the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Simon
2018-10-12 04:14:02 UTC
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replying to tomagrin, Simon wrote:
Now on ebay and Amazon "TECH Method Gary Lloyd" will pull it up

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Zinger
2018-10-12 18:29:18 UTC
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Post by Simon
Now on ebay and Amazon "TECH Method Gary Lloyd" will pull it up
Get out of this professional Usenet group you know it all home moaner
cocksuker and leave room for those that are asking for and getting good
information.
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