R22, 30 lb sealed- never opened

[Dale]

I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a full, sealed 30 lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I had my air conditioning installed, I purchased everything myself and had a technician friend do the final connections (I didn't have the vaccuum and he did). As it turned out, I never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment came fully charged, and the charge was sufficient. I glanced over at Ebay, and it looks like they're selling for around $150 or so (they cost around $50 to ship out). If anyone here is interested in taking this off of my hands, please reply here to leave a message and we'll take it from there. I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept Paypal payments as well as a check or money order (providing that it clears first).
Dale

[KM]

>"Dale" <ask.me> wrote in message
>news:a8d6c$4ab2809c$c4b46f0$***@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a full, sealed 30
>lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I had my >air conditioning
>installed, I purchased everything myself and had a technician friend do
>the final connections (I didn't have >the vaccuum and he did). As it
>turned out, I never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment came
>fully charged, >and the charge was sufficient. I glanced over at Ebay,
>and it looks like they're selling for around $150 or so (they cost >around
>$50 to ship out). If anyone here is interested in taking this off of my
>hands, please reply here to leave a message >and we'll take it from there.
>I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept Paypal payments as
>well as a check >or money order (providing that it clears first).

Why are you asking here, if you already seen what it goes for on eBay?

Either stick it on eBay, or up your ass. Make sure your friend uses the
vacuum, if you decide to stick it up your ass.

[Dale]

Hello KM,
The reason I was asking here is that these newsgroups have been around a lot longer than places like Ebay, and beside that, I'm looking to sell it privately rather than to place it on Ebay. Who knows, maybe there's someone around here who, like myself, doesn't always care for the way Ebay is run and managed. I'm not ruling out that posibility, but I thought that it would be appropriate to try the newsgroups to see what the local demand might be.
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Why are you asking here, if you already seen what it goes for on eBay?

Either stick it on eBay, or up your ass. Make sure your friend uses the
vacuum, if you decide to stick it up your ass.

[Stormin Mormon]

Dear Dale,
Sad that your first reply was less than helpful, and
less than polite. There's a bunch of different types of HVAC
customers. You're on the one end of the spectrum, the do it
yourselfer. The other end of the spectrum is the customer
who says "fix it, let me know when you finish, and I'll pay
what you ask". Most people are some where in the middle.
As it happens, a few of the people on this list aren't
encouraged by do it yourselfers. After too many cases where
people make a mess of things and want the tech to use all
his wisdom and training to fix it real cheap, so the DIY can
save a pile of money. As you can guess, techs can't stay in
business if they are working for nearly free.
Anyhow, the place that sold you the refrigerant should
be able to help you more than the folks on this list. The
last time I bought R-22 was a special super discount at one
parts hous, and I think I paid $38 per thirty pounds. Wish
I'd bought more than the couple I did get.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Dale" <ask.me> wrote in message
news:a8d6c$4ab2809c$c4b46f0$***@DIALUPUSA.NET...
I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a
full, sealed 30 lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I
had my air conditioning installed, I purchased everything
myself and had a technician friend do the final connections
(I didn't have the vaccuum and he did). As it turned out, I
never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment came
fully charged, and the charge was sufficient. I glanced
over at Ebay, and it looks like they're selling for around
$150 or so (they cost around $50 to ship out). If anyone
here is interested in taking this off of my hands, please
reply here to leave a message and we'll take it from there.
I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept
Paypal payments as well as a check or money order (providing
that it clears first).
Dale

[Dale]

Hello Christopher,
Thanks for the nice reply. Yes, like you mentioned, the stuff was cheap way back then, but prices have increased quite a bit. I think that the prices may continue to climb as the stuff becomes more scarce, but it's only speculation on my part. Look at what happened to R12. You used to be able to buy the stuff right off of the shelf at the department store's automotive section. Now the stuff, if you can locate it, is selling for something like +ACQ-800 a tank. About 5 or 10 years ago, I think it was selling for around +ACQ-500 for a 30 lb tank. So you see, I need to come to the newsgroups to have these types of discussions. Ebay is not so user friendly when it comes to group discussions. Well, I no longer have receipts for the stuff. I did loose some things when my basement flooded. The tank, still in the box with the seal, has been kept clean and dry. I took a picture with my cell phone and tried to post it, but I don't know whether the picture will make it through the internet.

Any comments from anyone in regards to the future of the prices / availability?
Dale
+ACI-Stormin Mormon+ACI- +ADw-cayoung61+ACoAKg-spamblock+ACMAIwBA-hotmail.com+AD4- wrote in message news:h8u32c+ACQ-ua+ACQ-1+AEA-news.eternal-september.org...
Dear Dale,
Sad that your first reply was less than helpful, and
less than polite. There's a bunch of different types of HVAC
customers. You're on the one end of the spectrum, the do it
yourselfer. The other end of the spectrum is the customer
who says +ACI-fix it, let me know when you finish, and I'll pay
what you ask+ACI-. Most people are some where in the middle.
As it happens, a few of the people on this list aren't
encouraged by do it yourselfers. After too many cases where
people make a mess of things and want the tech to use all
his wisdom and training to fix it real cheap, so the DIY can
save a pile of money. As you can guess, techs can't stay in
business if they are working for nearly free.
Anyhow, the place that sold you the refrigerant should
be able to help you more than the folks on this list. The
last time I bought R-22 was a special super discount at one
parts hous, and I think I paid +ACQ-38 per thirty pounds. Wish
I'd bought more than the couple I did get.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

[Stormin Mormon]

The picture won't post on this group. Need to find a group
that includes the words "binaries" and "pictures".
Regardless, most of us know what a jug of R-22 costs. I'm in
Rochester, NY area. Have a maybe of being in Ohio this
winter. Visit some friends in NW corner of Ohio.

You're right that R12 went from $60 a tank when I was a kid,
and went into several hundred, if you could find it at all.
Of course, it was phased out by R134a, and so R-12 isn't
much used any more. I do work on R-12 equipment on a regular
basis, and I have been using R409a. Some fellows like Steve,
are cutting edge, high tech fellows. Gone to the new Puron
already. I havn't yet worked with Puron, but will some day
for sure.

I'm expecting R-22 to go up, of course. An elderly friend of
mine is not doing the work any more, taking care of his wife
who's disabled. He offered me his old jugs of R-22, and I
bought them. He had some R-12, but not sure I'd ever use
that. I should go back and ask about it, sometime.

Selling cash and carry is different than at the parts house.
No reciept to take off taxes. So, a sealed tank is worth
something, but not enough to buy your teenager's braces, for
example.

--
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"Dale" <ask.me> wrote in message
news:26cbf$4ab29218$c4b46d0$***@DIALUPUSA.NET...
Hello Christopher,
Thanks for the nice reply. Yes, like you mentioned, the
stuff was cheap way back then, but prices have increased
quite a bit. I think that the prices may continue to climb
as the stuff becomes more scarce, but it's only speculation
on my part. Look at what happened to R12. You used to be
able to buy the stuff right off of the shelf at the
department store's automotive section. Now the stuff, if
you can locate it, is selling for something like +ACQ-800 a
tank. About 5 or 10 years ago, I think it was selling for
around +ACQ-500 for a 30 lb tank. So you see, I need to
come to the newsgroups to have these types of discussions.
Ebay is not so user friendly when it comes to group
discussions. Well, I no longer have receipts for the stuff.
I did loose some things when my basement flooded. The tank,
still in the box with the seal, has been kept clean and dry.
I took a picture with my cell phone and tried to post it,
but I don't know whether the picture will make it through
the internet.

Any comments from anyone in regards to the future of the
prices / availability?
Dale

[The Daring Dufas]

Dale wrote:
> I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a full, sealed 30
> lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I had my air conditioning
> installed, I purchased everything myself and had a technician friend do
> the final connections (I didn't have the vaccuum and he did). As it
> turned out, I never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment
> came fully charged, and the charge was sufficient. I glanced over at
> Ebay, and it looks like they're selling for around $150 or so (they cost
> around $50 to ship out). If anyone here is interested in taking this
> off of my hands, please reply here to leave a message and we'll take it
> from there. I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept
> Paypal payments as well as a check or money order (providing that it
> clears first).
> Dale

Dale, I would suggest your local Craigslist because
the shipping charges would make it uneconomical for
anyone at a distance. The price plus shipping would
exceed the supply house price. A good price for local
pick up would be the best way to go.

TDD

[Stormin Mormon]

That's a fine idea. Of course, if you call the AC guys in
your area, they may just brush you off, much as folks here
have. It did occur to me, like you say. Shipping would be a
bit much.

--
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"The Daring Dufas" <the-daring-***@stinky.net> wrote in
message news:h8u63u$qcc$***@news.eternal-september.org...

Dale, I would suggest your local Craigslist because
the shipping charges would make it uneconomical for
anyone at a distance. The price plus shipping would
exceed the supply house price. A good price for local
pick up would be the best way to go.

TDD

[Hermann]

Dale wrote:
> I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a full, sealed 30
> lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I had my air conditioning
> installed, I purchased everything myself and had a technician friend do
> the final connections (I didn't have the vaccuum and he did). As it
> turned out, I never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment
> came fully charged, and the charge was sufficient. I glanced over at
> Ebay, and it looks like they're selling for around $150 or so (they cost
> around $50 to ship out). If anyone here is interested in taking this
> off of my hands, please reply here to leave a message and we'll take it
> from there. I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept
> Paypal payments as well as a check or money order (providing that it
> clears first).
> Dale


Obviously you do not have federal certification to own or handle R22.
There is no way that I would deal with undocumented cooling gases and
definitely not from an unlicensed source. I wonder what Ebays liability
is if they are sandwiched on a deal like this.

[Stormin Mormon]

Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
world survived some how.

After the certificate program came into effect, we got
skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Hermann" <***@sheise.net> wrote in message
news:***@mid.individual.net...

Obviously you do not have federal certification to own or
handle R22.
There is no way that I would deal with undocumented cooling
gases and
definitely not from an unlicensed source. I wonder what
Ebays liability
is if they are sandwiched on a deal like this.

[W.Vanguard]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
> refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
> world survived some how.
>
> After the certificate program came into effect, we got
> skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
> government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
> abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.

Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy. Stormy,which part of
a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own post, this
fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a canister that has
been questionably stored for at least 15 years? Now should the Feds
stupidly decide to pursue thingsd like this, would you be considered
"An Accessory after the Fact"? Which is also a chargeable crime. Ummmm?
There is a whistle blowers fee of up to $10,000. As for this fellow
buying R22 to cut the bid of his contractor, Well... That is a bit of a
jokes as the contractor outsmarted him by not letting it be known that
the Unit casme preloaded. He still got a full paycheck. If this fellow
persists in selling this stuff, he should sell it to those the know and
trust him. I don't take unnecessary risks with what goes into my
customers equipment. You might offer to take it off his hands for the
cost of transport to offset the Multiple $$$$ risk that you could be
taking. I however will pass even on that. By the way it costs $3.00/lb
to destroy if it is somehow bad or contaminated. I suggest that you take
this up with our Jailhouse3 attorney, Mikey the King, before you do
anything.
>

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:26:13 -0500, "W.Vanguard" <***@mil.gov>
wrote:

>Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
>> refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
>> world survived some how.
>>
>> After the certificate program came into effect, we got
>> skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
>> government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
>> abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.
>
>Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy. Stormy,which part of
>a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own post, this
>fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a canister that has
>been questionably stored for at least 15 years?

Would you trust the typical canister in the back of the
typical service truck ? :-)















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[Hermann]

***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:26:13 -0500, "W.Vanguard" <***@mil.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> Before 1994, millions of non certificate people handled
>>> refrigerants. For the most part, things worked out OK. The
>>> world survived some how.
>>>
>>> After the certificate program came into effect, we got
>>> skyrocketing federal debt, and political chaos, and the
>>> government against the will of the people. Maybe we ought to
>>> abolish the EPA certificate, and see if that helps.
>> Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy. Stormy,which part of
>> a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own post, this
>> fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a canister that has
>> been questionably stored for at least 15 years?
>
> Would you trust the typical canister in the back of the
> typical service truck ? :-)

Hwll, I don't trust the typical Service truck. Is this guy selling a
hot service truck too? If its a Pinto, stormy is in the market for it.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Stormin Mormon]

You didn't hear? I got a Pinto Station Wagon last year.

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"Hermann" <***@sheise.net> wrote in message
news:***@mid.individual.net...
***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> Would you trust the typical canister in the back of the
> typical service truck ? :-)

Hwll, I don't trust the typical Service truck. Is this guy
selling a
hot service truck too? If its a Pinto, stormy is in the
market for it.

[Hermann]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> You didn't hear? I got a Pinto Station Wagon last year.
>

Maybe, like cancer.. It is time to expand.

[Stormin Mormon]

B....b....b....but I get 12 MPG as it is!

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"Hermann" <***@sheise.net> wrote in message
news:***@mid.individual.net...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> You didn't hear? I got a Pinto Station Wagon last year.
>

Maybe, like cancer.. It is time to expand.

[Hermann]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> B....b....b....but I get 12 MPG as it is!

With 2 Pinto's , you can double your mileage.
>

[Stormin Mormon]

I hope you are not as condescending with your customers.
That could be a real turn off.

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"W.Vanguard" <***@mil.gov> wrote in message
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Yep. certifying HVAC techs destroyed our economy.
Stormy,which part of
a $25,000 fine didn't you understand? If you read your own
post, this
fellow has been illegal since 1994. Would you trust a
canister that has
been questionably stored for at least 15 years? Now should
the Feds
stupidly decide to pursue thingsd like this, would you be
considered
"An Accessory after the Fact"? Which is also a chargeable
crime. Ummmm?
There is a whistle blowers fee of up to $10,000. As for this
fellow
buying R22 to cut the bid of his contractor, Well... That is
a bit of a
jokes as the contractor outsmarted him by not letting it be
known that
the Unit casme preloaded. He still got a full paycheck. If
this fellow
persists in selling this stuff, he should sell it to those
the know and
trust him. I don't take unnecessary risks with what goes
into my
customers equipment. You might offer to take it off his
hands for the
cost of transport to offset the Multiple $$$$ risk that you
could be
taking. I however will pass even on that. By the way it
costs $3.00/lb
to destroy if it is somehow bad or contaminated. I suggest
that you take
this up with our Jailhouse3 attorney, Mikey the King, before
you do
anything.

[Dale]

I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one way or the other. I may have been at one time.
"Hermann" <***@sheise.net> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
Obviously you do not have federal certification to own or handle R22.
There is no way that I would deal with undocumented cooling gases and
definitely not from an unlicensed source. I wonder what Ebays liability
is if they are sandwiched on a deal like this.

[Noon-Air]

"Dale" <ask.me> wrote in message
news:35a88$4ab384c2$c4b4668$***@DIALUPUSA.NET...
I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one way
or the other. I may have been at one time.



------------------------------------------------

In other words, your not and never have been.

[Hermann]

Dale wrote:
> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
> way or the other. I may have been at one time.

Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>
> "Hermann" <***@sheise.net <mailto:***@sheise.net>> wrote in
> message news:***@mid.individual.net...
> Obviously you do not have federal certification to own or handle R22.
> There is no way that I would deal with undocumented cooling gases and
> definitely not from an unlicensed source. I wonder what Ebays liability
> is if they are sandwiched on a deal like this.

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
wrote:

>Dale wrote:
>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
>> way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>
>Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.

Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.



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[The Daring Dufas]

***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dale wrote:
>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
>>> way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>
> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>

Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
on Disney.

TDD

[Hermann]

The Daring Dufas wrote:
> ***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated
>>>> one way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>>
>> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>>
>
> Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
> on Disney.

Nancy Pelosi was on Disney?
>
> TDD

[Stormin Mormon]

That was the voice I heard? Wow! Guess the man weasel was
Bill Clinton?

"I did not have sex with that gerbil, Miss Pelosi."

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"Hermann" <***@sheise.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
> on Disney.

Nancy Pelosi was on Disney?

[The Daring Dufas]

Hermann wrote:
> The Daring Dufas wrote:
>> ***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dale wrote:
>>>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never
>>>>> indicated one way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>>>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>>>
>>> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>>>
>>
>> Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
>> on Disney.
>
> Nancy Pelosi was on Disney?

Oh! Now I understand why the weasel looked so familiar!
The subservient one must have been modeled on Harry Reid.
The horny weasel was based on Bill Clinton. I know it
was produced by Liberal cartoonists because they gave the
dumb weasel a Texas accent.

TDD

[Stormin Mormon]

That was weasel babies. The adult weasels sound like Tom
Cruise, and Cindy Sheehan.

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"The Daring Dufas" <the-daring-***@stinky.net> wrote in
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>
> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>

Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
on Disney.

TDD

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:26:15 -0500, The Daring Dufas
<the-daring-***@stinky.net> wrote:

>***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
>>>> way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>>
>> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>>
>
>Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
>on Disney.
>
>TDD

Are you sure it wasn't a ferret ? It could have been a
ferret ....


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[Don Ocean]

***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:26:15 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> <the-daring-***@stinky.net> wrote:
>
>> ***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dale wrote:
>>>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
>>>>> way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>>>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>>> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>>>
>> Yes they do, they have high squeaky voices, I saw it
>> on Disney.
>>
>> TDD
>
> Are you sure it wasn't a ferret ? It could have been a
> ferret ....


You mean the black footed ferret? No he is still in office. ;-p
>
>

[Stormin Mormon]

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> Are you sure it wasn't a ferret ? It could have been a
> ferret ....


You mean the black footed ferret? No he is still in office.
;-p

[Don Ocean]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> And the liberals holler about racism. Nothing here to see,
> move along.

He is badly needed again as ACORNS Lawyer as they have been caught with
their hand in the cooky jar again. Aren't they scheduled to handle
American election results? His home country of Kenya misses him.
>

[Hermann]

***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dale wrote:
>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
>>> way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>
> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.

Of course they can. We have elected any number of them.
>
>
>

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:51:18 -0500, Hermann <***@sheise.net> wrote:

>***@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:28:28 -0500, Hermann <***@Scheise.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>> I never said that I wasn't qualified or licensed. I never indicated one
>>>> way or the other. I may have been at one time.
>>> Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No Sale.
>>
>> Don't be silly. Weasels can't talk.
>
>Of course they can. We have elected any number of them.

Point.


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I might have described it a bit more gently, but did come to
much the same conclusion. I sense that Dale is a fine home
owner, but not an AC tech. The tech who put in the system
should ought have reimbursed Dale for the tank of
refrigerant. Oh, well. Woulda, shoulda, oughta. Doesn't
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"Hermann" <***@Scheise.com> wrote in message
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Those are weasel words. You have stated nothing. Bzzzzt! No
Sale.

[Stormin Mormon]

You may have noticed. A few of the people on this list don't
take kindly to people who buy their own equipment, and want
someone to come install it. They would prefer that people
call, stand back, and pay when it's done.

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"Dale" <ask.me> wrote in message
news:a8d6c$4ab2809c$c4b46f0$***@DIALUPUSA.NET...
I'm sending this message to try to get an idea of what a
full, sealed 30 lb tank of R22 is worth these days. When I
had my air conditioning installed, I purchased everything
myself and had a technician friend do the final connections
(I didn't have the vaccuum and he did). As it turned out, I
never needed the new tank of R22 because the equipment came
fully charged, and the charge was sufficient. I glanced
over at Ebay, and it looks like they're selling for around
$150 or so (they cost around $50 to ship out). If anyone
here is interested in taking this off of my hands, please
reply here to leave a message and we'll take it from there.
I am located in Cleveland Ohio, and I am able to accept
Paypal payments as well as a check or money order (providing
that it clears first).
Dale

[Alexander]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> You may have noticed. A few of the people on this list don't
> take kindly to people who buy their own equipment, and want
> someone to come install it. They would prefer that people
> call, stand back, and pay when it's done.

If its OK for do it yourself Neurosurgery, it sure should be OK for do
it yourself HVAC. Take Stormy for example. He has done both. As is
obviously apparent.
>

[That One]

"Alexander" <***@thegreat.org> wrote in message
news:***@mid.individual.net...
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> You may have noticed. A few of the people on this list don't take kindly
>> to people who buy their own equipment, and want someone to come install
>> it. They would prefer that people call, stand back, and pay when it's
>> done.
>
> If its OK for do it yourself Neurosurgery, it sure should be OK for do it
> yourself HVAC. Take Stormy for example. He has done both. As is obviously
> apparent.
>>

I'm still trying to visualize the tank shoved up a weasel's ass...

[Alexander]

That One wrote:
> "Alexander" <***@thegreat.org> wrote in message
> news:***@mid.individual.net...
>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> You may have noticed. A few of the people on this list don't take kindly
>>> to people who buy their own equipment, and want someone to come install
>>> it. They would prefer that people call, stand back, and pay when it's
>>> done.
>> If its OK for do it yourself Neurosurgery, it sure should be OK for do it
>> yourself HVAC. Take Stormy for example. He has done both. As is obviously
>> apparent.
>
> I'm still trying to visualize the tank shoved up a weasel's ass...


Try looking at it from the weasels point of view.

>
>

[The Daring Dufas]

Alexander wrote:
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> You may have noticed. A few of the people on this list don't take
>> kindly to people who buy their own equipment, and want someone to come
>> install it. They would prefer that people call, stand back, and pay
>> when it's done.
>
> If its OK for do it yourself Neurosurgery, it sure should be OK for do
> it yourself HVAC. Take Stormy for example. He has done both. As is
> obviously apparent.
>>

Why you be pickin on Stormy? Dey is a lot moar dummer
peoples out der. I noe, eye seen em.

TDD

[robert]

replying to Dale, robert wrote:
Hi dale I am in cleveland ohio and need a tank of r22.do you still have it?

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[Ugurhan Kosereis]

replying to Dale, Ugurhan Kosereis wrote:
I am interested I accept the price I can paid with pay pal account.

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[PaxPerPoten]

On 8/2/2016 5:44 PM, Ugurhan Kosereis wrote:
> replying to Dale, Ugurhan Kosereis wrote:
> I am interested I accept the price I can paid with pay pal account.


Keep in mind that R22 requires a license to own or use... In fact
shippers can only ship it to licensed facilities. At least that is what
is in the Updates the Fed keep sending me. Might I suggest that an
alternative cooling gas would be R416A..It requires an oil change from
mineral to PAg oil. It is a replacement for R22, cheaper, Environment
friendly and will not upset the EPA. I am not sure whether you need a
license for it or not. I have a Universal...But cannot fathom why a
license would be required. Of course the Methodology for handling high
pressure gases safely should be adhered to.


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[PaxPerPoten]

On 8/2/2016 6:53 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
> On 8/2/2016 5:44 PM, Ugurhan Kosereis wrote:
>> replying to Dale, Ugurhan Kosereis wrote:
>> I am interested I accept the price I can paid with pay pal account.
>
>
> Keep in mind that R22 requires a license to own or use... In fact
> shippers can only ship it to licensed facilities. At least that is what
> is in the Updates the Fed keep sending me. Might I suggest that an
> alternative cooling gas would be R416A.

Correct that to R424A, R416A is a substitute for R12.
Also R270, R407C, R458A

https://hdsupplysolutions.com/shop/static--R22_alternatives

.It requires an oil change from
> mineral to PAg oil. It is a replacement for R22, cheaper, Environment
> friendly and will not upset the EPA. I am not sure whether you need a
> license for it or not. I have a Universal...But cannot fathom why a
> license would be required. Of course the Methodology for handling high
> pressure gases safely should be adhered to.
>
>


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[Edozier05]

replying to Dale, Edozier05 wrote:
What are u asking for it cash

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[james Callahan]

replying to Dale, james Callahan wrote:
How much are you looking for out of it.

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[buddy]]

replying to Dale, buddy] wrote:
i will give you 150.00


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[PaxPerPoten]

On 8/20/2017 2:14 PM, buddy] wrote:
> replying to Dale, buddy] wrote:
> i will give you 150.00

Can I collect the $10,000 reward for turning you and Dale in for dealing
in illegal and unlicensed products? My guess it is also counterfeit
Mexican also.


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[m***@yahoo.com]

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:36:21 AM UTC-4, PaxPerPoten wrote:
> On 8/20/2017 2:14 PM, buddy] wrote:
> > replying to Dale, buddy] wrote:
> > i will give you 150.00
>
> Can I collect the $10,000 reward for turning you and Dale in for dealing
> in illegal and unlicensed products? My guess it is also counterfeit
> Mexican also.
>
LOL good luck with that, Trumps era has been neutered they don't have the man power for such things and I doubt they care.

[Ray alga]

replying to Dale, Ray alga wrote:
Hello if I have to pay for shipping I'll give you $150

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[Leo]

replying to Dale, Leo wrote:
ok i can buy R22 30lbs from you, i can pay you by paypal ok

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